numfar_ptb ([info]numfar_ptb) wrote,
@ 2006-08-30 11:07:00
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Westernizing Eastern Productions
This is an entry related to the following thread from Whedonesque:
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I was going to post a larger reply in that thread, but when it started to get too Off Topic, I decided to use my Live Journal as an alternative placement for these thoughts. If the first line as follows seems to vague, please visit the thread and also read the article recommended by jpr. Consider this as the beginning of my comeback to the blogging world.

It makes me think a lot about all this trend of westernizing eastern productions. I got some contradicting feelings towards this westernizing trend. While it does seem to make them more palatable to some broad audiences, I do feel that it's a little disrespecteful also. Contradictory? Definetely. But I do define myself as a paradoxal person, so I'm not that surprised about contradictory views.

The trend did come to the mainstream movies in a broader way these coming years, but isn't something that hasn't happened before in pop culture. Robotech was 80's cartoon that did mesh up 2 or 3 different Japanese animation series. Power Rangers was another movement in that line, when Saban bought the rights to remake Toei's Tokusatsu shows. Back in the 70's and 80's brazilian tv did run a several of those japanese shows, directly from the source, and they were very well accepted, but after Saban acquired those rights, the remade shows became the exclusive product that western audiences could reach. Even now that those rights has gone to Disney, fans who'd like to get the original shows, can't get them legally through local networks, having to rely sorely on fan-subbers.

Maybe I'm just thinking too much into the matter, after all I am a eastern born man who grew up mostly in a western enviroment, maybe that does make me more sensitive onto this subject.

Sometimes I do get the impression that Akira Kurosawa's western fame seems to be only real in more cult circles instead of mainstream audience.I did read some articles around the time that "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was getting all that Academy Award Buzz, concernign how North American audiences are sensitive to dubbed movies and even worse most are too lazy to go to subtitled movies. So Ang Lee's movie was sort of a exception at the time. Can't say the same thing about Brazilian audiences, after all, most Hollywood movies come out here as subtitled movies.

In recent years, I started to really enjoy movies from the Korean writer and director Kim Ki Duk. He is famous for movies that fare a lot into Buddhist philosophy and relation to reality and the human condition. He's also famous for his extremely fast production schedule, in which he seems to be able to finish a whole movie in about a month, including shooting and post-production. I do wonder sometimes if his movies would be westernizable. Probably not, and it better if someone don't have some crazy idea to try to remake one. They have a uniqueness that's deeply tied to eastern views, culture and to the own setting of each picture. His movies, are definetely worth checking out.

I'm really curious about how they'll remake "My Sassy Girl", I really like the original, and I'm really concerned by how some of the more culturally stuff will come out once westernized. According to some asian websites they've cast 24's Elisha Curthbert as the "Sassy Girl". From the original, I don't feel she'd be the best choice. I'd go for Eliza Dushku or Kristen Bell.

It reminds me of a debate we had at Whedonesque about Shyamalan's movies, back when "the Village" came out in theathers and wasn't weel received (don't remember the thread or I'd link it, and was probably Firefly related). While most the audience go into his movies, expecting that "Sixth Sense" end twist moment, what I believe is his distinctive mark in movies is not those twist endings but how he works to insert eastern sensitivities and cultural views in a western storytelling and filmaking process.

That's definetely something to be considered.



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Westernizing or not ?
(Anonymous)
2006-08-30 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Contradictory feelings, always :)

While my primary interest lies in the process of how these Asian remakes came about I can see where it could be considered both a bad and a good thing, bad specifically when the new version is significantly worse than the original or dropped some important aspect of the story, though IMO this is not significantly different from the problems with adapting books or graphic novels, the original is often the best version ( new writers and a new medium changes the story in often unexpected ways).

Would it be wrong to say that this process is not unlike the way that stories where retold before there was modern media ? The people doing the retelling added, subtracted to fit the time, place and audience making the story theirs and this is how some of the oldest folktales where created by being retold time and time again.

Yes, some movies are just not adaptable from a cultural viewpoint, they contain to much inside information requiring you as the audience to be well versed in the background of the mythology, horror must be one of the easiest to translate, but the world-culture that is accessible to most people on the planet is slowly growing, Hollywood is doing their best to ensure that, bigger market equals more money after all.

Sidenote, how come the remake (The Ring) made more money than the original in Japan itself, more money in marketing, special effects, recognizable star ?


-jpr

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Re: Westernizing or not ?
[info]numfar_ptb
2006-08-31 11:23 am UTC (link)
It seems that there are mainly 3 type of asian movies getting the western remake treatment.
a) Asian Horror Movies (mostly Japanese, but there a few from Hong Kong also being considered). - seems to be the most common case.
b) Romantic Dramas or Comedies or simply "chick flicks".
c) Thriller / Suspence Dramas

I won't attempt to say that I understand how does the movie business works in Japan, because I don't. Well, I have never really been in Japan in my life, cause 2 hours waiting for my connecting flight just doesn't count.
What I know from Japan is actually a lot I've seen through TV, either from thei shows, or from those travelling shows or from people somehow connected to them.

But it seems to me that they do have a very large and competitive movie business in there. A few things that woudn't really be profitable or considered profitable nowadays in the western markets, actually go to the big screens in Japan, like current tv show tie-in movies (and they're not even necessarily long form movies).

I was watching the other some of the extras in "The Grudge" DVD, and Sarah was talking about how the movie production system worked differentely compared to the american style. It's quite interesting.

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Re: Westernizing or not ?
(Anonymous)
2006-08-31 12:11 pm UTC (link)
The korean movie industry have also taken off in a big way the last couple of years and the film "Addicted" is of course a intended remake of a Korean original.

Sure most countries even the smallest have a local movie industry and given the Asian countries economic progress it is only to be expected that their movie industries will grow at a high rate, still Hollywood have the advantage of being able to create larger markets for their products, making more money for the directors, actors and investors, will therefore be interesting to see how the balance will look in the future between locally produced content and Hollywood products.

Some countries like France and China develop policies to protect their homegrown movie industries other countries are more ok with the Hollywoodification, IMO I dont care where the movies are made as long as they are well made, the current trends in Hollywood of sequels and all remakes all the time depresses me.

Listened to those extras as well, seemed like there where some surprises on both sides.


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